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【AMA】疫情后的新世界, DApp才是王道? 欢迎来聊!

嘉宾 CHR-Henrik,Perelman

新冠开启新世界大门:我们正在经历的新冠疫情,持续时间足够长,长到足以产生一场社会革命。人类史上能在短时间内重构社会的只有四件事,一饥荒、二瘟疫、三战争、四技术革命。目前我们正在经历二跟四。正如黑死病让欧洲人口锐减,劳动力紧缺,于是人们开始大量接纳新技术来节省人力。而效率的提升使农民获得更高的收入于是储蓄率有上升,储蓄…

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新冠开启新世界大门:

我们正在经历的新冠疫情,持续时间足够长,长到足以产生一场社会革命。人类史上能在短时间内重构社会的只有四件事,一饥荒、二瘟疫、三战争、四技术革命。目前我们正在经历二跟四。
正如黑死病让欧洲人口锐减,劳动力紧缺,于是人们开始大量接纳新技术来节省人力。而效率的提升使农民获得更高的收入于是储蓄率有上升,储蓄上升形成了资本积累。资本积累有进一步加强技术投资,这个循环导致了第二次机器革命的产生。另一方面,疫情打破了宗教的绝对权威,个体意识开始萌芽,从而开启了后续的文艺复兴,文艺复兴又进一步促使个体意识的觉醒,带来的纺织品工业品食品贸易等多个领域的全面需求升级。
在中国,新冠同样催生的新需求和行动。一方面疫情打破了我过去的消费习惯,让我们产生了全新的需求,另外疫情让各行各业更加拥抱线上化就催生了全新的供给,这两股力量的结合,促成了中国新一轮的商业升级需求的变化。简而言之,各行各业的供给开始进入全面线上化,这对DApp来说,无疑是一个好的机遇。 

相关视频资料:疫情后的新世界,年轻人需要了解的五大趋势 by B站UP主所长林超

关于Chromia:

Chromia运用关系数据库技术以构建真正的去中心化互联网基础架构,从而使开发人员和用户都可以像常规APP一样轻松,快速,交互式且安全地进行Dapp开发。超过300个应用已经或正在利用Chromia底层技术构建了针对政府,机构和私人企业的应用程序,应用领域横跨游戏,社交网络,房地产,银行,法律,医疗等领域。
Chromia成立于2018年,由NGC,Arrington Capital,Factlock,Waves等顶尖风险资本投资。目前Chromia已拥有超过200家知名客户和合作伙伴。全球数以百万计的用户受益于Chromia的技术(瑞典土地局一个项目就将惠及瑞典900万民众)。主要客户和合作伙伴包括:瑞典土地局,Telia(最大的北欧电信运营商),LHV银行,美洲开发银行,澳大利亚新南威尔士州土地注册处, 德国联邦经济合作部和发展部,SEB北欧商业银行。
官网链接:https://chromia.com/

嘉宾介绍:

Henrik Hjelte,Chromia联合创始人兼首席执行官
Henrik拥有30多年的编程经验,并在乌普萨拉大学取得经济学学位。 在2013年被彩色币项目的负责人Alex Mizrahi引入区块链后,与Or Perelman一起创立了ChromaWay,探索世界是否对货币以外的其他东西感兴趣。 在经过公链和私链上一系列创新和实际用例之后,他们决定把今年的工作重心放在Chromia上。Chromia是一个融合了区块链技术的主流去中心化应用程序公共平台。 

Or Perelman,Chromia联合创始人兼首席运营官
Or Perelman主修法律,他创立了世界上第一个用户友好型比特币钱包Safebit(和Ripple的现任首席技术官一起),并从事市场营销工作。

AMA时间:

5月6日,周三上午12点。

政府提倡的区块链新基建,会如何将各行各业连接在一起?
DCEP如果能顺利推进,对dAPP会有什么积极影响?
2020年我们能否看到更多的dAPP应用落地?

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  • 牛头大哥 管理员 发表于2020-05-06 11:29:26

    官方提问:


    1. 许多从业者认为目前制约dAPP发展的主要原因是“基础设施不完善”,目前的“跨链”,“侧链”解决方案成效如何?


    2. 现在市面上的DApp开发平台很多,Chromia有哪些竞争优势?可以从大家比较关心的开发成本和易用性等方面进行阐述。


    3. 看到你们介绍中有提及,超过300个应用已经或正在利用Chromia底层技术构建了针对政府,机构和私人企业的应用程序,应用领域横跨游戏,社交网络,房地产,银行,法律,医疗等领域。中国政府也把区块链列入新基建中。你们认为此次疫情是否能够加速基于区块链的DApp发展?差不多还需要多久我们才能看到大规模应用落地?


    4. 中国的央行正在推进DCEP,你们认为国家发行的数字货币对DApp产业会产生什么影响?


    5. ChromaWay在这个行业中已经有很长一段时间了,听说你们的CTO Alex Mizrahi是V神的师傅~请介绍一下你们的Roadmap,以及近期有没有什么重大计划


    欢迎大家继续提问!


    Perelman 水手 回复牛头大哥 发表于2020-05-06 13:27:50 嘉宾
    问题5: 我们已经发布了所需的新编程语言Rell和支持的工具(在线开发环境,可下载的IDE、文档,SDK)。 我们已经在12月发布了第一个测试网,并在bootstrap主网发布了第一个项目”绿色资产钱包”。 绿色资产钱包项目基于Chromia的平台,专注于通过技术和影响标记化推动绿色金融。
    2020年我们的计划是发布一系列dApps,以展示Chromia的优势,并继续开发该平台。 当它足够安全成熟时,我们将上线主网。
    Dapps现在正在由我们以及其他社区成员制作。 我们做了一个名为Chromunity的去中心化社交网络框架,现在发布到测试网。 这真的很酷,用户可以独立投票,并在未来,用户甚至可以支配完整的应用程序,决定它如何更新。 这是Chromia的一个很好的展示,以及为什么我们使用口号权力向公众展示。
    即将上线的游戏:
    达拉尼亚矿山(由Workinman Interactive制作)。 一个矿井中的动作游戏,区块链租赁地块和物品。 已经在测试网上,你可以看看它https://www.minesofdalarnia.com

    克里斯托邦2,新星之旅. 一个益智游戏由Antler Interactive制作完成。

    Perelman 水手 回复牛头大哥 发表于2020-05-06 13:25:22 嘉宾
    question 5:We have released Rell, the new programming language that is needed, and supported tooling (online Development Environment, downloadable IDE, documentation, SDK). We have released the first testnet in december, and the first project that runs on our Bootstrap Mainnet Green Assets Wallet.
    Plans for 2020 are to both release a series of dApps to showcase how fantastic Chromia is, as well as continue to develop the platform. And when it is secure and good enough, we will release the mainnet.
    Dapps are now being made by us as well as others. We do a decentralized social network framework called Chromunity, now released to TestNet. It is really cool, users can vote over moderators, and in the future users might even govern the complete application, how it can be updated. This is a great showcase for Chromia and why we use the slogan Power to the Public.
    Games coming are:
    Mines of Dalarnia (by Workinman Interactive). An action game in a mine with blockchain rental of plots and stuff. Already on TestNet and you can take a peek on it at https://www.minesofdalarnia.com
    Krystopia 2, novas journey. A puzzle game done by Antler Interactive.
    An indie game Chain of Alliance, done by two external developers. It is a strategy game with full-logic on blockchain. Public release on TestNet on May 22!
    A secret demo-project that we do together with Antler to showcase the technical potential of Chromia platform.


    More coming in 2020: Other DApps from other companies, one in impact-tech.
    CHR-Henrik 水手 回复牛头大哥 发表于2020-05-06 13:25:09 嘉宾
    Question 5: Chromia has been launched for a long time, could you please introduce your Roadmap, and do you have any major plans in the near future?
    We have released Rell, the new programming language that is needed, and supported tooling (online Development Environment, downloadable IDE, documentation, SDK). We have released the first testnet in december, and the first project that runs on our Bootstrap Mainnet Green Assets Wallet.
    Plans for 2020 are to both release a series of dApps to showcase how fantastic Chromia is, as well as continue to develop the platform. And when it is secure and good enough, we will release the mainnet.
    Dapps are now being made by us as well as others. We do a decentralized social network framework called Chromunity, now released to TestNet. It is really cool, users can vote over moderators, and in the future users might even govern the complete application, how it can be updated. This is a great showcase for Chromia and why we use the slogan Power to the Public.
    Games coming are:
    Mines of Dalarnia (by Workinman Interactive). An action game in a mine with blockchain rental of plots and stuff. Already on TestNet and you can take a peek on it at https://www.minesofdalarnia.com
    Krystopia 2, novas journey. A puzzle game done by Antler Interactive.
    An indie game Chain of Alliance, done by two external developers. It is a strategy game with full-logic on blockchain. Public release on TestNet on May 22!
    A secret demo-project that we do together with Antler to showcase the technical potential of Chromia platform.


    More coming in 2020: Other DApps from other companies, one in impact-tech.
    CHR-Henrik 水手 回复牛头大哥 发表于2020-05-06 13:18:23 嘉宾
    问题4: 瑞典政府也正在启动我们自己的数字货币项目E-Krona,我们相信政府数字货币是有趣且重要的项目,我们很高兴看到它们的进展
    CHR-Henrik 水手 回复牛头大哥 发表于2020-05-06 13:17:47 嘉宾
    Question 4: Swedish government is also started project for our own digital currency called E-Krona, we believe government digital currencies are interesting and important projects and we are exciting to see how they progress
    CHR-Henrik 水手 回复牛头大哥 发表于2020-05-06 13:16:14 嘉宾
    问题3: 好消息是您已经可以在Chromia上构建大型应用程序。 如前所述,我们参加了瑞典的全球黑客马拉松。 我们提交的项目是在Chromia区块链上创建一个应用程序,以增强
    国家和医院,特别是在困难时期的协调。 所以是的,我们认为疫情可以加速dapp的发展
    CHR-Henrik 水手 回复牛头大哥 发表于2020-05-06 13:15:34 嘉宾
    Question 3: Good news is you already can build large-scale application on Chromia. As we mentioned, we participated in the world-wide hackathon Hack for Sweden. Where our submission was to create an app on Chromia blockchain that increases the coordination between countries and hospitals especially during the hard time. So yes, we think this pandemic can accelerate the development of dapps
    Perelman 水手 回复牛头大哥 发表于2020-05-06 13:14:31 嘉宾
    问题2: 易用性是我们的核心,这要归功于系统的关系性。目前,关系数据库75%由企业市场运行,远高于任何关键价值存储。后端的SQL使企业更容易将我们的技术堆栈集成到其旧系统中,而无需在大多数情况下重做它们,这也是其他区块链项目失败之处。这就是为什么我们在Chromia网络中成功获得了2个部署客户的原因。对于开发人员来说,部署dApp非常容易,因为他们已经了解了关系编程。请记住,我们与客户和开发人员合作,在为他们解决问题的同时构建了技术堆栈。我们并没有构建不必要的东西,我们有市场上的验证证据。
    Rell也是我们的语言,它是静态类型的(意味着在编写时,而不是我们运行程序时就会发现bug)。它也更加紧凑,最低仅需SQL代码行的1/7。并且内置了“常规”编程结构+区块链编程。因为相比SQL,我们同时需要关系数据库归属权和更高的安全性,所以Rell是目前唯一的选择。学习起来真的很容易,请检查https://rell.chromia.com/en/master/

    Perelman 水手 回复牛头大哥 发表于2020-05-06 13:13:28 嘉宾
    Question 2:Easiness is our core feature thanks to the relational aspect of our system. Relational databases are run by 75% of the enterprise market at the moment, way above any key value store. SQL at the backend etc, which makes it easier for enterprises to integrate our tech stack to their legacy systems without the need to redo them like in most cases where blockchain pilots have failed. That’s why we had success with 2 deployed customers which live in the Chromia network. It’s very easy for developers to deploy dApps because they already know relational programming. Keep in mind that we worked with customers and developers to build our tech stack while solving problems for them.We didn’t build something unneeded, we had proof of validation from the market.
    Also Rell is our language, it is Statically typed (means bugs are discovered when programs are written rather than we they run). It is also more compact, up to 1/7 of the code lines of SQL. And have "normal" programming constructs + blockchain programming built in. Because we require both relational database properties and more security than SQL, currently Rell is the only choice. It is really easy to learn, please go check https://rell.chromia.com/en/master/
    Perelman 水手 回复牛头大哥 发表于2020-05-06 13:08:54 嘉宾
    问题1:我们的基础架构与阿里云相似,因此dapp开发人员可以轻松地将dapp的区块链部署到其中。 此外,我们的语言Rell(https://rell.chromia.com/en/master/)比其他任何区块链编程语言都更强大。它具有以下功能:
    1关系数据建模和查询类似于SQL。 熟悉SQL的人在学习新语法后开发应该会十分流畅。
    2正常的编程结构:变量,循环,函数,集合等。
    3专门针对应用程序后端的构造,尤其是针对区块链样式的编程,包括请求路由,授权等。
    Rell旨在使编程尽可能方便和简单。 它减少了样板和重复。 同时,作为静态类型的系统,它可以在运行之前检测并防止多种缺陷。
  • 亏完就走 船员 发表于2020-05-06 11:44:35
    dapp市场现在日活并不高,你们在这个方面有什么推广的措施么?
    Perelman 水手 回复亏完就走 发表于2020-05-06 12:17:53 嘉宾
    是的,相比传统应用市场,dapp市场的日活相对较低,我们认为这是dapp的用户体验较差导致。首先,在Chromia,开发者可以像开发传统应用一样开发dapp,这使得应用的用户体验更加顺畅,同时保持去中心化。其次,我们有很丰富的推广活动计划。例如,占代币总量25%的营销推广基金,推荐系统,和许多其他营销活动。

    Perelman 水手 回复亏完就走 发表于2020-05-06 12:17:27 嘉宾
    Yes, daily activity of dapp market is rather low compared to traditional apps market, we believe that this is because of bad user experience dapps have. On Chromia dapps can be built in a way as a traditional app, so user experience will be smooth while dapp will remain decentralized. Secondly, we have a variety of promotion activity plans. For example, big promo fund that is 25.00% of total token supply, special referral program as a tool and many other things
  • 吴超人会飞 副船长 发表于2020-05-06 11:45:04
    DAPP目前主要集中在游戏领域,生命周期基本都很短,就像加密猫也只是一时火热;如何挖掘DAPP在更多领域的应用以及如何提高DAPP的持续使用率?
    CHR-Henrik 水手 回复吴超人会飞 发表于2020-05-06 12:40:06 嘉宾
    游戏是一个极具挑战性的目标,因为用户期待良好的游戏体验,需要快速,响应敏捷等。如果我们能够做到这一点,那么我们还可以做各种其他事情。 此外,游戏还使我们可以轻松进行实验,更轻松地吸引用户,等等。 在区块链中,游戏也是一个日益增长的利基市场。我们已经拥有了企业级项目,例如Green Assets Wallet ( https://greenassetswallet.org/about )已经发布了第一个名额为Bootstrap Net的主网版本,还有基于我们技术的 https://capchap.se/ ,还有非营利性评论平台Impactoria,公共土地注册,医疗项目等等。 最后,不要忘记我们的完全去中心化社交网络/论坛,测试网已经上线 https://testnet.chromunity.com
    CHR-Henrik 水手 回复吴超人会飞 发表于2020-05-06 12:39:08 嘉宾
    Gaming is quite a challenging target because good UX is expected, it needs to be fast, responsive, etc. If we can do that, then we can also do all sorts of other stuff. Also it lets us experiment with things without a lot of hassle, it’s easier to get users, and so on. It’s also a growing niche within blockchain.We also have Enterprise projects already, for example Green Assets Wallet https://greenassetswallet.org/about that already launched on the first Mainnet version called Bootstrap Net, we also have https://capchap.se/ built on our tech, more projects like non-profit review platform Impactoria, public land registries, medical projects and so on. Also do’t forget about our fully decentralized social network/forum that is live already on the testnet https://testnet.chromunity.com
  • 亏完就走 船员 发表于2020-05-06 11:47:14
    目前看来dapp主要集中在菠菜、游戏这两个市场,在别的领域并没有看见什么强烈的需求,你们怎么看这个问题
    Perelman 水手 回复亏完就走 发表于2020-05-06 12:28:16 嘉宾
    At present, it seems that dapps are mainly concentrated in the two markets in terms of Bet and Game, and there is no strong demand in other fields. What do you think about this problem?
    Yes, we also see higher demand in games that's why we chose this niche to start with. But with better user experience more applications in various field will become more popular, like our decentralized forum https://testnet.chromunity.com for example, and of course Corporate dapps
    Perelman 水手 回复亏完就走 发表于2020-05-06 12:27:59 嘉宾
    是的,我们在游戏中看到了更高的需求,这就是我们选择这个利基市场的原因。 但是,随着更好的用户体验,更多来自各种领域的应用将变得越来越流行,例如我们的去中心化论坛https://testnet.chromunity.com,当然还有企业型dapp
  • 币圈反向指标 队长 发表于2020-05-06 11:52:15
    如何看待目前市场上已经存在的Dapp?他们真的需要区块链技术吗?或者他们真的是区块链技术搭建出来的吗?
    CHR-Henrik 水手 回复币圈反向指标 发表于2020-05-06 12:43:16 嘉宾
    我会接着上一个问题开始:是的 - 我们的主要功能能够将完整的dapp逻辑上链,因此它基于区块链技术。 为什么DAPP需要区块链? 好问题!我们认为,去中心化将权力交还给用户受众,并创造更多的公平性,因为用户可以控制他们的资产和个人信息。区块链也非常适合推荐系统和其他营销系统,透明度是此类应用的关键。我们认为dapp市场现在还处于起步阶段,将会有更多的人涌入,特别是Chromia上的dapp可以提供更好的UI / UX
    CHR-Henrik 水手 回复币圈反向指标 发表于2020-05-06 12:42:39 嘉宾
    I will start with the last question, yes - our main feature is ability to put full dapp logic on the chain so it’s based on blockchain technology. Why do dapps need blockchain? Good question! We believe decentralization puts power back into users' hands and creates more fairness, because users are in control of their assets, their personal information. Also blockchain is perfectly suitable for referral programs, and other marketing applications when transparency is the key. We believe dapp market now it’s in its early days and more people will come, especially with better UI/UX that dapps on Chromia can provide
  • 九级浪 船员 发表于2020-05-06 11:53:20
    dapp上充斥着大量的菠菜项目,维持dapp运转需求的同时也成为了dapp合规化道路的阻碍,贵方有什么积极应对的方法么?
  • 单身成瘾 船员 发表于2020-05-06 12:01:24
    dapp将如何面对疫情后的世界变革
    CHR-Henrik 水手 回复单身成瘾 发表于2020-05-06 12:46:49 嘉宾
    没人可以断言,但人们可能花在线上的时间将比线下更多,所以对于线上产品和dapp的需求会增加。另外,在医药领域也出现了很多dapp的应用场景。例如,我们参加了全球黑客马拉松 Hack for Sweden。 我们提交的内容是在Chromia区块链上创建一个应用程序,以增强国家和医院之间的协调性,特别是在困难时期和COVID19疫情期间。 Chromia希望帮助欧盟及其公民对基本医疗和疫情期间短缺的防护设备透明化, 您可以在这里观看我们的宣传短篇 https://twitter.com/chromaway/status/1247557274337447938?s=20
    CHR-Henrik 水手 回复单身成瘾 发表于2020-05-06 12:46:12 嘉宾
    Nobody can say for sure, but maybe people will tend to be online more than offline, so demand on online products and dapps as well will increase. There are also interesting use cases of dapps in the medical field. For example, we participated in the world-wide hackathon Hack for Sweden. Where our submission was to create an app on Chromia blockchain that increases the coordination between countries and hospitals especially during the hard time and COVID19. Chromia wants to help the European Union and its citizens to provide transparency over the necessary medical and protective devices and appliances of which we see shortage during this emergency crisis. You can watch our promo here https://twitter.com/chromaway/status/1247557274337447938?s=20
  • 我是肉包 版主 发表于2020-05-06 12:06:04
    Dapp目前还是不像APP一样能直接嵌入手机使用,而且之前dapp也被菠菜内容所充斥,请问嘉宾如何增加dapp使用率以及使用降低dapp应用的使用门槛呢?
    Perelman 水手 回复我是肉包 发表于2020-05-06 12:51:36 嘉宾
    答案是-更好的用户体验。我们相信,要使DApp可用并得到更广泛的接受,它就必须像普通的应用一样。 dapp需要快速交易,和良好的扩展性,并且不要求用户为每次交易付费。现在,使用Chromia可以做到这一点。这将是一个非常激动人心的时刻,因为我们将要看到新一代的DApp。

    最重要的是,我们认为我们会拥有一张王牌。我们制作了一个游戏来演示Chromia的功能和可能性。关于游戏的一些知识:达拉尼亚矿山(https://www.minesofdalarnia.com)中,玩家可以探索广阔的跨星际宝藏。借助创新的Dalarnia代币系统,玩家可以购买虚拟采矿地块,并将其出租给社区使用,从而赚取更多的令牌。矿区也可以进行自我升级,使探索更有利可图,并且矿工可以出租热门产权。该游戏利用基于NFT的代币来安全地跟踪交易,并在玩家发展自己的采矿和资源帝国的同时,为其带来归属感和财富感。请观看我们的预告片https://youtu.be/bDXKOp1Asqw,并在我们的测试网上注册!
    Perelman 水手 回复我是肉包 发表于2020-05-06 12:50:53 嘉宾
    Dapps are still not directly embedded in mobile phones like APPs at this moment, and Dapps have also been flooded with bet content. How can guests increase the use of dapps and lower the threshold for using dapps?
    The answer is - better User Experience. We believe that in order for a DApp to be useable and become more widely accepted it has to feel like like a normal App. A dapp needs to have quick transactions, scale well & shouldn’t require users to pay for each transaction. This is something that is possible now with using Chromia. It’s an extremely exciting time since we are going to see a new generation of DApps.

    On tip of that, we think that we might have an ace coming up. We have built a game to demonstrate the powers and possibilities of Chromia. A little bit about the game: In Mines of Dalarnia (https://www.minesofdalarnia.com), players get to explore the vast expanses of interplanetary treasure mines. With an innovative Dalarnia Token system, players can purchase virtual mining plots, and put them up for rent into the community, allowing for real-estate tycoons to earn more Tokens. Mining plots can also undergo their own upgrades, making them more lucrative to explore, as well as a hot property for rental by miners. The game takes advantage of these NFT-based tokens to securely track exchanges, and provide a sense of ownership and wealth to players as they grow their mining and resource empire. Watch our trailer https://youtu.be/bDXKOp1Asqw and sign-up for the TestNet on the website!
  • Folli找杠杆 队长 发表于2020-05-06 12:08:35
    1、用户从app迁移到Dapp最大的驱动力在哪里?
    2、去中心化和上链,是否是Dapp的伪需求?
    CHR-Henrik 水手 回复Folli找杠杆 发表于2020-05-06 12:54:01 嘉宾
    1)我们认为有两个主要因素:1.寻求隐私,个人数据由用户自己拥有 2.去中心化资产的经济系统和机制

    2)不,我们完全相信链上逻辑是dapp的关键需求。 如果用户不持有数字资产或数据的私钥,便无法确认对它们拥有完全的掌控
    CHR-Henrik 水手 回复Folli找杠杆 发表于2020-05-06 12:53:28 嘉宾
    1)We think there are two main forces: 1. Seek for the privacy and personal data owned by a user 2. Economics and mechanics of decentralized assets

    2)No, we truly believe on-chain logic is a key requirement for dapp. User cannot be sure in full control of any digital asset or data without holding private key to them
  • 单身成瘾 船员 发表于2020-05-06 12:25:28
    dapp未来会取代app么?可以介绍下前景么
    CHR-Henrik 水手 回复单身成瘾 发表于2020-05-06 13:36:41 嘉宾
    没有人知道,但是我们认为有可能。当一个中心化app和dapp具有相同可用性,但dapp提供了更多的隐私和控制权,那么为什么还要使用中心化解决方案?
    CHR-Henrik 水手 回复单身成瘾 发表于2020-05-06 13:36:22 嘉宾
    Nobody knows, but we think it's possible, when you have both an app and a dapp with the same usability but the dapp gives you more privacy and control, why use a centralized solution?
  • midoo 队长 发表于2020-05-06 12:29:41
    简介中提到:Chromia底层技术构建了针对政府,房地产,银行,法律,医疗等领域的解决方案,你们也有和政府银行合作的成功案例,为什么这些领域需要使用dapp技术? 你们有进军中国市场的规划吗?
    Perelman 水手 回复midoo 发表于2020-05-06 13:43:57 嘉宾
    是的,目前中国市场是我们的最为重视的,我们正在寻求与中国研究实验室和大学合作。 只有机构的广泛采用,才会使dapps成为主流
    Perelman 水手 回复midoo 发表于2020-05-06 13:43:35 嘉宾
    Yes, Chinese market is our top priority right now, we are looking to collaborate with Chinese Research Labs and Universities. Without wide adoption from institutions dapps will never go mainstream

  • hellobitcoin 副船长 发表于2020-05-06 12:47:03
    两位嘉宾好,我的问题如下:
    1.CHR是如何吸引这么多项目在平台上开发的?是提供了技术指导,便利性,还是奖励之类的?
    2.刚刚看到新闻,能不能详细介绍一下LACPropertyChain计划?以及在南美实施的土地管理项目,具体CHR承担了怎样的功能?解决了哪些问题?
    3.dapp开发好像主要针对企业,政府,那普通人有没有参与机会呢?
    Perelman 水手 回复hellobitcoin 发表于2020-05-06 14:12:43 嘉宾
    question 3:Yes, we are open to individuals as much as to institutions. as a matter of fact, we already have dozens of D'apps developed by grass-root entrepreneurs or developers, ranging from games, IPs, company investment records etc.
    问题三:是的,我们对个人和机构都开放。 实际上,我们已经有几十个由草根企业家或开发人员开发的Dapp,包括游戏,IP,公司投资记录等。
    Perelman 水手 回复hellobitcoin 发表于2020-05-06 14:11:58 嘉宾
    question2:It is a project the Inter-American Development Bank initiated, and ChromaWay are contracted to look at how blockchain can improve processes around land management in South-America. It is a prioritized project by the bank. We can’t disclose a technical solution or details as of yet, it needs to be synchronized with our partners and the customer. The first delivery will be in the autumn.

    问题二:这是美洲开发银行发起的一个项目,已与ChromaWay签订合同,以研究区块链如何改善南美土地管理流程。 这是该银行的重要项目。 我们还不能透露技术解决方案细节,这需要与我们的合作伙伴和客户保持同步。 第一次交付将在今年秋天。

    Perelman 水手 回复hellobitcoin 发表于2020-05-06 14:05:19 嘉宾
    question 1: Yes - guidance is here https://rell.chromia.com/en/master/, you can also find help in our developers chats across different platforms. Chromia is also the most convenient blockchain platform on the market. We also started a grant program and an incubator in partnership with EU VC funds, stay tuned for more info
    问题一:是的-这是使用指南https://rell.chromia.com/en/master/,你也可以在我们的开发人员交流系统中寻求帮助。Chromia还是市场上最便捷的区块链平台。 我们还与欧盟风险投资基金合作启动了一项捐赠计划和一个孵化器,敬请期待更多信息
  • 地表最强韭菜 水手 发表于2020-05-06 12:48:55
    听说你们的技术团队十分强大,能否详细介绍一下?你们的社区活跃度怎么样?感觉专注技术的团队往往会忽视市场,在市场营销方面有什么规划吗?
    Perelman 水手 回复地表最强韭菜 发表于2020-05-06 14:53:48 嘉宾
    我们正在不断提升我们的市场工作,您现在可以读到许多有关我们进展的新闻。我们的用户和开发者社区呈指数增长,

    关于创始人的一点介绍:

    Henrik Hjelte - Chromia的CEO
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/henrikhjelte/
    https://github.com/hankhero?tab=overview&from=2016-12-01&to=2016-12-31

    Henrik联合创始了coloredcoins项目,这是在区块链上发行代币的第一种方式,并编写了它的第一个钱包客户端webcoinx,Henrik还启动了知名的数据库开源库,Henrik已有20年的开发经验,并获得了乌普萨拉大学的行政管理和经济学专业说是,曾在欧洲的许多顶尖公司工作,例如Eniro,Nasdaq,Kambi体育等。Henrik自2012年以来一直从事加密技术工作。在从事加密技术之前, Alex和Henrik在Henrik成立的一家Web 2.0公司中Stix一起工作

    Alex Mizrahi - Chromia的CTO
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-mizrahi-a1b2b44/
    https://github.com/killerstorm

    Alex是侧链概念的发明者之一,后来被Blockstream广泛普及。Alex是Coinjoin创造者之一(流行的隐私技术)https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150681.0,Alex撰写了许多区块链学术论文,例如如:
    https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/452.pdf被引用100多次。
    https://arxiv.org/abs/1406.5694, Alex运行了第一个coloredcoins协议EPOBC:https://github.com/chromaway/ngcccbase/wiki/EPOBC并在2012年编写了它的第一个规范https:// bitcointalk.org /index.php?topic = 106373.0,Alex从10岁起就开始编程,从3D图形和用户界面到组装中的低级性能优化,应有尽有。在数学,计算机科学,算法,面向对象的设计和编程语言理论方面拥有深厚的背景。
    Alex毕业于顿涅茨克国立大学MSC应用数学专业,并以优异的成绩毕业。他于2011年通过建立有史以来第一个去中心化交易所而进入加密货币领域,但从未上线。

    Or Perelman - ChromaWay和Chromia的首席运营官兼联合创始人
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/orperelman/

    与Stefan Thomas在2011年共同创立了第一个易用的比特币钱包Safebit,并担任CTO(直到最近作为Ripple的CTO),并且是有史以来第一家出现在Techcrunch中的比特币公司-https: //techcrunch.com/2011/10/24/the-business-of-bitcoin-entrepreneurs-see-opportunities-al-alternative-currencies/,与Alex和Henrik共同创立了Coloeredcoins项目,获得了Netanya大学法学学士学位,曾在家族企业Chemipal LTD市场部工作多年,该企业是以色列最大的药品经销公司,也曾在以色列军队中服役三年。Or自13岁起就开始建立网站并参与逆向工程,是一位经验丰富的以销售人才,曾成功地向世界五百强公司,银行和企业出售了区块链应用程序和技术
    Perelman 水手 回复地表最强韭菜 发表于2020-05-06 14:53:24 嘉宾
    We are constantly improving our marketing efforts, you can read now a lot of news about our progress. Our users and developers’ communities as are growing exponentially,

    A little bit about founders

    Henrik Hjelte - CEO of Chromia

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/henrikhjelte/

    https://github.com/hankhero?tab=overview&from=2016-12-01&to=2016-12-31

    Henrik co-founded the coloredcoins project which was the first way to issue tokens on the blockchain and wrote it's first wallet client webcoinx, Henrik also started popular database open-source libraries, Henrik has been a developer for 20 years, Finished Master's degree in business administration and economics from uppsala university, worked at many top companies in Europe such as Eniro, Nasdaq, Kambi sports solutions and more, Henrik is in crypto since 2012 and Alex and Henrik work together before crypto in a company Henrik founded which was a web 2.0 startup called Stix

    Alex Mizrahi - CTO of Chromia
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-mizrahi-a1b2b44/
    https://github.com/killerstorm

    Alex is one of the sidechain concept inventors which later blockstream popularized, Alex was one of the coinjoin creators (popular privacy tech), - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=150681.0, Alex wrote many blockchain academic papers such as:
    https://eprint.iacr.org/2014/452.pdf Proof of activity paper was cited over 100 times.
    https://arxiv.org/abs/1406.5694 , Alex implemented the first ever coloredcoins protocol EPOBC: https://github.com/chromaway/ngcccbase/wiki/EPOBC and wrote it's first ever specs in 2012 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106373.0 , Alex has programming since he was 10 years old, everything ranging from 3D graphics and user interfaces, down to low-level performance optimizations in assembly. I have strong background in mathematics, computer science, algorithms, object-oriented design and programming language theory.
    Alex graduated with honors from Donetsk national university MSC in applied mathematics, he got into crypto in 2011 by building the first ever decentralized exchange which he never launched.

    Or Perelman - COO and co-founder of ChromaWay and Chromia

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/orperelman/

    Co-founded one of the first use-friendly bitcoin wallet in 2011 which was called Safebit with Stefan Thomas as it's CTO (up until recently, Ripple's CTO) and was the first ever bitcoin company to ever being featured in tech-crunch - https://techcrunch.com/2011/10/24/the-business-of-bitcoin-entrepreneurs-see-opportunities-in-alternative-currencies/, Co-founded the coloredcoins project with Alex and Henrik , Finished LLB in Law from College of Netanya, used to work at my family owned company Chemipal LTD which is the biggest pharma distribution company in Israel today a few years in the marketing division and also served in the Israeli army for three years. Or used to build websites since he was 13 years old and was involved in reversing engineering, Or is an experienced sales focused guy and managed to sell blockchain applications and technology to 500 fortune companies, banks and enterprises
  • 地表最强韭菜 水手 发表于2020-05-06 12:53:43
    再问一句,既然团队这个么牛,连莱特币创始人李启威都说Chromia就是一个非常不错的闪电网络和侧链应用的平台,在技术方面Chromia具体有什么优势?
    Perelman 水手 回复地表最强韭菜 发表于2020-05-06 14:55:00 嘉宾
    Chromia被构建为一个区块链系统。 所有这些区块链都是关系型区块链。 系统是分层的,有执行系统功能的特权链和处理dapp功能的dapp特定链。 系统链跟踪其他链的区块生产者(“提供者”),比特币锚定,代币交换和其他重要功能
    因此,它是layer 2区块链(元数据/可扩展性)的最佳解决方案
    Perelman 水手 回复地表最强韭菜 发表于2020-05-06 14:54:38 嘉宾
    Chromia is built as a system of blockchains. All of those blockchains are relational blockchains. The system is hierarchical in that there are privileged chains which perform system functions, and dapp specific chains which handle dapp functions. The system chains keep track of block producers (“providers”) for other chains, bitcoin anchoring, token swaps, and other important features
    So it’s the best second layer (metadata/scalability) solution for any blockchain

    Perelman 水手 回复地表最强韭菜 发表于2020-05-06 14:25:33 嘉宾
    Ok, I am not sure I know where the quote is from and if he said that. But Charlie Lee and Alex Mizrahi have known each for many years, had many technical discussions and on some occasions wrote research papers together. Primarily on bitcoin and tokens. Charlie Lee is an advisor to ChromaWay. The concept of sidechains is also something that our CTO have been doing pioneering research on already around 2012. We even planned to do something similar to lightning networks for LHV Bank in 2015, but in the end we chose to go another direction. Advantage for Chromia as a sidechain in broad sense is the same as in general; it is fast, scalable, easy to code, powerful and mature.
    好的,我不确定消息的来源以及他是否真的这么说过。 但是Charlie Lee和Alex Mizrahi彼此认识很多年,进行过许多技术讨论,有时还共同撰写研究论文,主要涉及比特币和其他代币。 李启威(Charlie Lee)是ChromaWay的顾问。 侧链的概念也是我们的CTO在2012年左右就一直在进行的开创性研究。我们甚至计划在2015年为LHV银行开发类似于闪电网络的项目,但最终我们选择了另一个方向。 从广义上讲,Chromia作为侧链的优势与一般情况相同。 它快速,可扩展,易于编码,功能强大且成熟。
  • doctor_who 水手 发表于2020-05-06 13:08:44
    你们跟这么多政府机构以及银行合作下来,认为当前区块链行业的瓶颈个突破口分别有哪些?以太坊把主要精力放在DeFi上面,最近发生的一系列DeFi黑天鹅事件对DAPP产业有没有影响?


    Perelman 水手 回复doctor_who 发表于2020-05-06 14:55:53 嘉宾
    这是两个问题。先回答第一个,行业的瓶颈和突破。
    我认为该行业取得的突破是它吸引了公司和政府的关注,并看到区块链是可以打开新机遇并蓬勃发展的新架构。是一个机遇,对于那些无法适应的人是一种威胁。
    但是,这就是我们要解决的瓶颈,主要是迄今为止的技术还不成熟。有人认为相反,因为他们并不理解。但是,看看世界上,什么样的技术能被用来代替银行中的旧cobol系统,什么技术是web 1.0的在线商店的后端,什么是Mark Zuckerberg和朋友在学生室中创建“ thefacebook”时使用的后端工具?在所有这些情况下都是:SQL。一个关系数据库。现在,区块链行业认为,它可以跳过已经运行了100年的所有公司的所有优秀部分,并从零开始,其技术已经使用了几年,并且只拥有一个常规数据库很小的一部分功能。
    这就是Chromia所做的:我们使用一种行之有效的技术的重要功能,该功能运行良好,可以构建我们看到的所有内容,并使其像区块链一样安全。这是构建可以改变未来的现实应用程序所需要的。看一下我们拥有的社交网络,Chromunity,这可能是真实用户可以使用的真实应用程序的奇点。无需代币即可尝试。不会使用中心化服务器。区块链。我希望有人能从中获得启发,并开启更大的事业。我们已经提供了工具。


    关于第二个问题:以太坊的DeFi黑客问题与以太坊的体系结构以及Solidity编程的困难有关,编写比if/then更复杂的方程,且不犯错误、不留后门几乎是不可能的。在Chromia中,我们使用Rell和Relational Blockchain架构来帮助开发人员预防此类事件
    Perelman 水手 回复doctor_who 发表于2020-05-06 14:55:30 嘉宾
    That is two questions. I’ll start with the first, bottleneck and breakthroughs in the industry.
    I think that the breakthrough the industry has made is that it has captured companies and governments interest, and opened up for seeing that blockchain is a new architecture that can open new opportunities and be radical. An opportunity and a threat to those that do not adapt.
    But, and that is what we address, the bottleneck is largely that the technology so far is immature. Some say otherwise, of course they do since they do not know anything else. But look at the world. What technology has been used to replace the old cobol systems in banks, what technology was the backend to the online stores of web 1.0, and what was the backend tool that Mark Zuckerberg and friends used when they created “thefacebook” in their student room? It was on all these occasions: SQL. A relational database. And now blockchain industry thinks it can just skip all the good parts of what is running at 100% of all companies and start from scratch, with technology that is a few years old and have only a little small subset of the features of a proper database.
    This is what Chromia does: we use the important features of a proven technology that works so well to build everything we see, and make it secure as blockchain. This is what is needed to build the real-world applications that can change the future. Look at the social network we have, chromunity, it could be a beginning of a real application that real users can use. No tokens needed to try. No cheating with a centralized server. This is how blockchain should be made. I hope someone should take inspiration, be inspired, and start something bigger. We have provided the tools.


    Regarding second question: problems with Ethereum DeFi hacks are related with Ethereum architecture and difficulties with Solidity programming, it’s almost impossible to write anything more difficult than if then function without leaving severe mistakes or unintentional backdoors. In Chromia we use Rell and Relational Blockchain architecture which helps a developer to prevent such events
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CHR-Henrik

Chromia联合创始人 & CEO

Chromia联合创始人 & CEO
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Chromia联合创始人 & COO

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